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S1E3: Embracing Creativity and Courage with 'Big Magic' by Elizabeth Gilbert

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S1E3: Embracing Creativity and Courage with Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert

Do you long to express yourself more freely, but find fear, perfectionism, or self-doubt holding you back?

In this inspiring episode of Read, Reflect, Rise, host Wils Struthers-Cooper dives into the soul-stirring words of bestselling author Elizabeth Gilbert and her transformational book Big Magic. Together, we explore what it truly means to live a creatively courageous life, not just for artists, but for anyone craving more joy, curiosity, and inner freedom.

✨ Whether you're yearning to write, create, try something new, or simply live more expansively, this episode will gently guide you through:

✅ A powerful excerpt from Big Magic
✅ A soul-nourishing meditation to help you exist alongside fear and embrace inspiration
✅ A closing affirmation to carry with you all week long


This is your invitation to welcome creativity, not by pushing fear away, but by walking alongside it with grace and curiosity.

If you’ve ever asked, “Who am I to do that?”—this episode is your answer.

Show Notes

Show Notes: S1E3: Embracing Creativity and Courage with ‘Big Magic’ by Elizabeth Gilbert

Summary

This episode of Read, Reflect, Rise delves into Elizabeth Gilbert’s ‘Big Magic,’ focusing on how to embrace creativity and courage by reframing our relationship with fear. Host Will Struthers-Cooper, a teacher and wellbeing coach, guides listeners through Gilbert’s perspective: that fear is a natural companion to creativity, but it should never be allowed to drive our creative pursuits. The episode concludes with a powerful guided meditation and actionable affirmations to help listeners move forward with their creative potential.

Key Topics

  • [00:00] Welcome to Read, Reflect, Rise & Host Introduction
  • [01:00] Today’s Focus: Elizabeth Gilbert’s ‘Big Magic’
  • [03:40] Elizabeth Gilbert’s Powerful Perspective on Fear
  • [04:40] Excerpt from ‘Big Magic’: The Fear You Need & Don’t Need
  • [08:40] Excerpt from ‘Big Magic’: The Road Trip Metaphor for Fear
  • [12:45] Excerpt from ‘Big Magic’: Why Traveling with Fear is Worth It
  • [14:30] Guided Meditation: Visualizing Your Creative Journey with Fear
  • [19:30] Post-Meditation Reflections & Affirmations
  • [20:45] Conclusion & Call to Action

Key Quotes

{‘quote’: ‘Creativity is a path for the brave, yes, but it is not a path for the fearless.’, ‘author’: ‘Elizabeth Gilbert’}

{‘quote’: ‘Your fear will always be triggered by your creativity because creativity asks you to enter realms of uncertain outcome and fear hates uncertain outcome.’, ‘author’: ‘Elizabeth Gilbert’}

{‘quote’: ‘I decided that I would need to build an expansive enough interior life that my fear and my creativity could peacefully coexist since it appeared that they would always be together.’, ‘author’: ‘Elizabeth Gilbert’}

{‘quote’: “You’re allowed to have a seat and you’re allowed to have a voice, but you’re not allowed to have a vote… But above all else, my dear old familiar friend, you are absolutely forbidden to drive.”, ‘author’: “Elizabeth Gilbert (from the ‘road trip’ metaphor)”}

{‘quote’: “If you can’t learn to travel comfortably alongside your fear, then you’ll never be able to go anywhere interesting or do anything interesting. And that would be a pity because your life is short and rare and amazing and miraculous.”, ‘author’: ‘Elizabeth Gilbert’}

{‘quote’: “Creativity is not something outside of you. It’s already within you, waiting to be invited to live its best life.”, ‘author’: ‘Will Struthers-Cooper’}

Takeaways

  • Embrace creativity with courage, understanding that fear is a natural companion but not a controller.
  • Do not attempt to ‘kill off’ fear, as it might inadvertently ‘murder’ your creativity in the process.
  • Make space for fear to coexist with your creative endeavors, treating it like a passenger on a road trip, not the driver.
  • Utilize the powerful ‘road trip’ metaphor: invite fear along, acknowledge its presence and voice, but never allow it to dictate your direction or decisions.
  • Practice the guided meditation to visualize and embody your desired creative destination, with fear safely contained in the back seat.
  • Affirmations to carry through your week:
    1. ‘All of my feelings are welcome. I move forward with grace. I move forward with love.’
    1. (For moments of panic/fear) ‘I see my fear. I breathe into my fear. I take one step forward despite my fear.’
  • Remember you don’t need permission to create; you just need to begin.

Transcription

Episode Transcript: S1E3: Embracing Creativity and Courage with ‘Big Magic’ by Elizabeth Gilbert

[00:03] Hello and welcome to Read, Reflect, Rise, where we explore words of wisdom from wonderful [00:08] authors, invest in our personal growth and find ways to centre ourselves in this wonderful [00:14] yet oh-so-chaotic life. I’m your host, Will Struthers-Cooper, a teacher, wellbeing coach [00:20] and one of your biggest fans on our journey of self-discovery. [00:24] In each episode we dive into the wisdom of an inspiring author, a thought leader, a meditation [00:30] teacher, a researcher or maybe even a poet, whose words spark transformation and invite [00:35] heart full living. Together we’ll reflect on their insights, embark on a guided moment [00:40] of stillness inspired by their work and conclude with a powerful affirmation you can carry [00:45] with you throughout the week. Today’s episode is a deep dive into the world of creativity, [00:50] courage and inspiration through the eyes of an author who has encouraged millions to [00:55] listen to their innermost feelings, eat indulgent pasta dishes and step into their full potential. [01:00] We’re talking about none other than Elizabeth Gilbert and today we’re looking at her book, [01:05] Big Magic. This book is like a love letter to creativity, an invitation to live with [01:11] curiosity and courage, not fear. If you’ve ever longed to grow and express yourself more [01:17] but held yourself back, if you’ve ever doubted whether your ideas were good enough or if [01:22] you’ve ever felt stuck despite yearning to move forward and grow, this episode is the [01:27] one for you. [01:29] Elizabeth Gilbert is a name you might recognise from Eat Pray Love. It was a global sensation [01:34] that sent countless people on journeys of self-discovery and it starred Julia Roberts [01:38] in the film version. Liz Gilbert is much, much more than just a best-selling author. [01:43] She’s a leader. She embodies grace, courage and vulnerability in the way she lives her [01:48] life and she’s clearly a deep thinker about the creative process itself. In Big Magic, [01:55] she unpacks what it truly means to live a life of inner freedom, not in the sense of [02:00] being a professional artist but in the sense of embracing expansiveness in everyday living, [02:05] whether that’s through painting, writing, gardening or simply thinking in new ways. [02:10] What makes Gilbert’s approach to creativity so powerful is her perspective on fear. She [02:16] doesn’t tell us to conquer fear or eliminate it. She invites us to make space for our fears, [02:22] even the debilitating ones, but not let them be in charge. Her philosophy? That ideas are [02:29] living things waiting for us to collaborate with them and that creative living doesn’t [02:34] require us to be fearless. It just requires courage. Now, let’s immerse ourselves in her words. [02:43] This passage from Big Magic speaks to the heart of creative courage. Let’s settle in, [02:48] take a breath and absorb some wisdom from Liz Gilbert. The fear you need and the fear [02:55] you don’t need. Now you probably think I’m going to tell you that you must become fearless in [03:01] order to live a more creative life, but I’m not going to tell you that because I don’t happen to [03:06] believe it’s true. Creativity is a path for the brave, yes, but it is not a path for the fearless [03:12] and it’s important to recognize the distinction. Bravery means doing something scary. Fearlessness [03:20] means not even understanding what the word scary means. If your goal in life is to become fearless, [03:27] then I believe you’re already on the wrong path because the only truly fearless people I’ve ever [03:32] met were straight-up sociopaths and a few exceptionally reckless three-year-olds and those [03:37] aren’t good role models for anyone. The truth is you need your fear for obvious reasons of basic [03:44] survival. Evolution did well to install a fear reflex within you because if you didn’t have any [03:50] fear you would leave a short, crazy, stupid life. You would walk into traffic, you would [03:56] drift off into the woods and be eaten by bears. You would jump into giant waves off the coast of [04:02] Hawaii despite being a poor swimmer. You would marry a guy who said on the first date, I don’t [04:07] necessarily believe people were designed by nature to be monogamous. So yes, you absolutely do need [04:14] your fear in order to protect you from actual dangers like the ones I’ve listed above, but you [04:19] not need your fear in the realm of creative expression. Seriously, you don’t. Just because [04:26] you don’t need your fear when it comes to creativity of course doesn’t mean your fear won’t show up. [04:32] Trust me, your fear will always show up, especially when you’re trying to be inventive or innovative. [04:38] Your fear will always be triggered by your creativity because creativity asks you to enter [04:43] realms of uncertain outcome and fear hates uncertain outcome. Your fear, programmed by [04:51] evolution to be hyper vigilant and insanely overprotective, will always assume that any [04:57] uncertain outcome is destined to end in a bloody, horrible death. Basically, your fear is like a [05:04] mall cop who thinks he’s a Navy SEAL. He hasn’t slept in days, he’s all hopped up in Red Bull and [05:10] he’s liable to shoot at his own shadow in an absurd effort to keep everyone safe. This is [05:16] totally natural and human. It’s absolutely nothing to be ashamed of. It is however, something that [05:22] very much needs to be dealt with. The road trip. Here’s how I’ve learned to deal with my fear. I [05:30] made a decision a long time ago that if I want creativity in my life, and I do, then I will have [05:36] to make space for fear too. Plenty of space. I decided that I would need to build an expansive [05:44] enough interior life that my fear and my creativity could peacefully coexist since it appeared that [05:50] they would always be together. In fact, it seems to me that my fear and my creativity are basically [05:57] conjoined twins as evidenced by the fact that creativity cannot take a single step forward [06:03] without fear marching right alongside it. Fear and creativity shared a womb. They were born at [06:10] the same time and they still share some vital organs. This is why we have to be careful of how [06:15] we handle our fear because I’ve noticed that when people try to kill off their fear, they often end [06:21] up inadvertently murdering their creativity in the process. So I don’t try to kill off my fear. I [06:36] make space for fear right this moment. I allow my fear to live and breathe and stretch out its legs [06:42] comfortably. It seems to me that the less I fight my fear, the less it fights back. If I can relax, [06:49] fear relaxes too. In fact, I cordially invite fear to come along with me everywhere I go. I even have [06:56] a welcoming speech prepared for fear, which I deliver right before embarking upon my new project [07:02] or big adventure. It goes something like this. Dearest fear, creativity and I are about to go on [07:09] a road trip together. I understand you’ll be joining us because you always do. I acknowledge [07:15] that you believe you have an important job to do in my life and that you take your job seriously. [07:21] Apparently your job is to induce complete panic whenever I’m about to do anything interesting and [07:25] may I say you are superb at your job. So by all means keep doing your job if you feel you must. I [07:34] will also be doing my job on this road trip, which is to work hard and stay focused and creativity [07:40] will be doing its job, which is to remain stimulating and inspiring. There’s plenty of [07:46] room in this vehicle for all of us, so make yourself at home. But understand this, creativity [07:52] and I are the only ones who will be making any decisions along the way. I recognize and respect [07:58] that you’re part of this family and so I will never exclude you from our activities. But still, [08:04] your suggestions will never be followed. You’re allowed to have a seat and you’re allowed to have [08:09] a voice, but you’re not allowed to have a vote. You’re not allowed to touch the road maps. You’re [08:14] not allowed to suggest detours. You’re not allowed to fiddle with the temperature. Dude, you’re not [08:19] allowed to touch the radio. But above all else, my dear old familiar friend, you are absolutely [08:26] forbidden to drive. Then we head off together, me and creativity and fear, side by side forever, [08:36] advancing once more into the terrifying but marvelous terrain of unknown outcome. Why it’s [08:43] worth it? It isn’t always comfortable or easy carrying your fear around with you and your great [08:48] and ambitious road trip. I mean, but it’s always worth it because if you can’t learn to travel [08:54] comfortably alongside your fear, then you’ll never be able to go anywhere interesting or do [08:59] anything interesting. And that would be a pity because your life is short and rare and amazing [09:05] and miraculous and you want to do really interesting things and make really interesting things while [09:11] you’re still here. I know that’s what you want for yourself because that’s what I want for myself [09:15] too. It’s what we all want. And you have treasures hidden within you, extraordinary treasures. And so [09:23] do I. And so does everyone around us. And bringing those treasures to light takes work and faith [09:30] and focus and courage and hours of devotion. And the clock is ticking and the world is spinning [09:38] and we simply do not have time anymore to think so small. [09:52] And when you’re ready, we’re going to go into meditation inspired by Liz Gilbert’s words. [10:01] What a powerful meditation I’m using on courage and fear and how you can invite fear along for the journey. [10:13] Beautiful prose, but sometimes easier said than done. So let yourself settle down into your body, [10:24] whether you’re moving or still, it makes no odds. Feel your feet, feel the touch of your hands on [10:32] whatever they’re on. Feel any support you’ve got on your seat or your back. And allow yourself to [10:42] breathe in and release. And again, breathe in and release. Notice any sounds around you. [11:01] It could be the wind moving the trees. It could be traffic. It could be machines buzzing or [11:07] could be other people’s voices. Give yourself the gift of presence. In this moment, what do you notice? [11:20] In this moment, what do you notice? And again, breathing in and allowing yourself to release [11:31] the tension in your body and the breath. [11:37] Taking longer and longer exhales as you take a moment to be and breathe. [11:55] And now I want you to think about getting into a car. You’re going somewhere new, somewhere [12:00] you’ve always wanted to go. It could be an actual physical destination, an adventure, a journey. [12:07] It could be into a new job or into a new facet of a relationship. [12:16] You’re going to take a car to get there. [12:22] And you get into the car, it doesn’t matter if you’re the driver or the passenger. [12:29] And you let your old friend fear come in. Now if you haven’t ever pictured your fear before, [12:38] allow yourself a moment just to work out what they look like. Are they tall, short, jagged, curvy, angular? [12:52] Do they look like a human or some kind of cartoon character? Are they an animal? [12:58] But remember they’ve got to fit into this car. And you might even want to put them into maybe [13:04] a child’s car seat. So they might need to shrink in size a little bit. Make them the size of [13:13] a toddler perhaps. And they’re not in charge. And even if they think they are, they’re not in charge. [13:22] So you just make sure they’ve got their seatbelts all done up and they’re secure and they can’t go anywhere. [13:31] Now look ahead. Now you’re back in your own seat. Where are you traveling to? [13:37] How do you want to be when you get there? [13:44] Think about how you’ll feel in your own skin. How you’ll dress, how you’ll move, what you’ll say. [13:53] Paint a picture of that you that’s going to come alive at your destination. [14:00] Have you made something? Have you changed something? Have you become something? [14:09] And allow yourself to take a moment knowing fine well that fear’s in the back seat all strapped in, [14:16] buckled up. They can speak but they don’t have any power. [14:24] Allow yourself time to soak in that vision [14:31] of what you’ve done, where you’ve gone, who you’re becoming. [14:43] Picture what you’re wearing. [14:49] Look around you. [14:53] Are you in the corner office? Are you holding a brand new printed manuscript in your hands? [15:02] Are you dancing? Are you standing on top of a mountain? Are you in a corner office? [15:06] Are you in a fountain? What’s your dream? What’s your creative soul calling for? [15:20] Let it exist. [15:28] And allow a smile to grow on your face. [15:32] And if you hear that little voice in the back seat piping up, remember they’re not driving the car. [15:39] You and creativity are. [15:44] So pass them back a colouring book. Pass them back a snack. [15:52] They’ve got a voice but it’s not going to change your journey. [16:03] Now I want you to encompass, gather up all of that journey energy. [16:14] And rest your hands on your heart. [16:20] Allow the corners of your mouth to lift. [16:25] Allow yourself to breathe into that energy inside of you. [16:30] Allow your chest and your ribs to expand in a circle. [16:36] And imagine it traveling down through your torso, down your legs, into your feet. [16:43] Out through your shoulders, down to your fingertips, up to the very top of your head. [16:52] This dream came from within you. You now know what it looks like to live it. [17:08] Allow yourself to live it no matter what fear says. [17:16] Now coming back to the soles of your feet, wiggle your toes, move your fingers, [17:23] put some pressure down onto the balls of your feet and into your heels. [17:27] Feel that strength. Do the same with your hands. Apply some pressure. [17:35] Feel that power. That’s all inside of you. [17:57] Thanks for coming along on that journey with me. [18:02] Creating our lives, creativity, it’s not about being perfect. It’s about showing up. [18:09] It’s about taking one tiny step forward. It’s about saying yes to inspiration when it comes knocking. [18:19] And as you move through your week, I invite you to hold on to this affirmation. [18:24] All of my feelings are welcome. I move forward with grace. I move forward with love. [18:34] All of my feelings are welcome. I move forward with grace. I move forward with love. [18:43] And if that doesn’t resonate or go deeply enough for you in some moments of panic or fear, play with this one. [18:50] I see my fear. I breathe into my fear. I take one step forward despite my fear. [19:02] I see my fear. I breathe into my fear. I take one step forward despite my fear. [19:15] Let it be a reminder that you don’t need permission to create. You just need to begin. [19:24] Thank you for spending this time with me on Read, Reflect, Rise. I hope today’s episode has given [19:28] you a sense of possibility, a fresh perspective and a little nudge toward whatever magic is calling [19:33] you to create something that will make your heart sing. If this episode resonated with you, share it [19:39] with a friend who might need a reminder to embrace their creativity or courage. Don’t forget to subscribe [19:45] so you never miss an episode. And if Liz Gilbert’s words spoke to you, consider picking up Big Magic. [19:50] Support a local bookshop, get it at your library or buy it online. For more resources and links [19:55] to the book mentioned, visit www.readreflectrise.com. That’s www.readreflectrise.com. You’ll find [20:05] everything in the show description. While you’re there, join the email list for exclusive content [20:09] and inspiration between episodes. And if you find value here today, leaving a review on Apple [20:15] Podcasts or Spotify helps so much. It’s a great way to spread this message and help others find [20:20] moments of reflection and growth. Remember, as you move through your week, creativity is not something [20:27] outside of you. It’s already within you, waiting to be invited to live its best life. You always hold [20:33] the power to create one breath, one pause and one choice at a time. Until next time, I’m Will [20:40] Struthers-Cooper reminding you to take a moment to be so you can reflect and rise. Go well, take great [20:46] care of each other and remember there is magic, medicine and power in the words we weave and wield. [20:53] Big Magic. [20:54] [21:01] Perspective on fear. [21:09] And you’re rare and miraculous and amazing. Okay. [21:24] Stitch.

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