S1E10 Willpower Instinct Kelly Mcgonigal
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[00:02] Hey beautiful people, welcome back to Read, Reflect, Rise.
[00:07] I’m your host, Will Struthers-Cooper, a wellbeing coach, a teacher and someone who truly believes
[00:13] in the healing power of words.
[00:16] Each week I read aloud from the work of a transformational author, reflect on the wisdom
[00:21] within their words, guide you through a meditative pause or break and leave you with a mantra
[00:27] or affirmation to rise with.
[00:29] Today we’re diving into the science and the heart of self-control or your I will, I won’ts
[00:37] and I wants.
[00:40] Our spotlight is on psychologist and author Kelly McGonigal and her game-changing book,
[00:45] The Willpower Instinct.
[00:47] It came out in 2012 which makes it an oldie but a goodie.
[00:51] I had to include this in season one of Read, Reflect, Rise as it has had such powerful
[00:56] results for me.
[00:57] I know it can help anyone grow.
[01:00] When I read this book I ended up doing Project 35 where I wrote a poem every single day for
[01:05] an entire year.
[01:07] Which is so hard, I’m not going to lie.
[01:10] It was a real discipline and it’s the most disciplined I think I’ve ever been in my life.
[01:15] I know this book can help anyone grow in any situation.
[01:20] So if you’ve ever felt like willpower deserts you when you need it the most, whether it’s
[01:25] resisting that scrolling, that snacking or snapping in the chaos, dropping on fulfilling
[01:31] your desires or meeting deadlines, this episode is your invitation to rewrite that story.
[01:38] To rewrite the habits that have stacked up to put you where you are today, to choose
[01:44] intentionally and begin again.
[01:47] Let’s get going.
[01:49] Get comfortable.
[01:50] Get curious.
[01:51] This is your time.
[01:56] Kelly McGonigal is a health psychologist and lecturer from Stanford University who bridges
[02:02] the worlds of neuroscience, compassion and behavioural change.
[02:06] Her work blends hard science with heart-led insight and huge doses of humorous writing
[02:11] and the willpower instinct is a perfect example of that.
[02:16] In it she explains how willpower isn’t about white-knuckling our way through temptations
[02:21] but instead about understanding the why behind our impulses so that we can respond with kindness
[02:29] and clarity.
[02:32] One of her central teachings is that self-criticism drains willpower while self-forgiveness strengthens
[02:40] it.
[02:42] Yep, let’s hear that again.
[02:44] Self-criticism drains willpower but self-forgiveness strengthens it.
[02:50] That is a major reframe.
[02:54] One that’s backed up by science research and real-world experience.
[03:00] And here’s the best bit.
[03:01] Kelly doesn’t tell us to be better.
[03:04] She teaches us how to be with ourselves in the moment better.
[03:11] There may be lots of things we want differently but we’re all good as we are.
[03:15] We’re just becoming more wise noticeers.
[03:21] Let’s hear Kelly’s words.
[03:26] The fight or flight response.
[03:28] I should probably say she’s just been talking about running away from a saber-toothed tiger.
[03:33] Context.
[03:35] The flight or fight response is one of nature’s greatest gifts to mankind.
[03:41] The built-in ability of your brain and body to devote all of their energy to saving your
[03:47] butt in an emergency.
[03:50] You aren’t going to waste energy, physical or mental, on anything that doesn’t help
[03:54] you survive the immediate crisis.
[03:57] So when the fight or flight response takes over, the physical energy that might a moment
[04:02] ago have been devoted to digesting your morning snack or repairing a hangnail is redirected
[04:08] to the task of immediate self-preservation.
[04:12] Mental energy that was focused on finding your dinner or planning your next great cave
[04:17] painting is re-channeled into present moment vigilance and rapid action.
[04:23] In other words, the fight or flight stress response is an energy management instinct.
[04:31] It decides how you’re going to spend your limited physical and mental energy.
[04:38] A new kind of threat.
[04:41] Still in the savanna of the Serengeti fleeing the saber-toothed tiger?
[04:45] Sorry about that.
[04:47] I apologise if our trip back in time was a bit stressful, but it was a necessary detour
[04:52] if we want to understand the biology of self-control.
[04:57] Let’s come back to today.
[04:59] Away from the prowl of now extinct predators.
[05:02] Catch your breath.
[05:04] Relax a little.
[05:05] Let’s find our way somewhere safer and more pleasant.
[05:10] How about a stroll down your local main street?
[05:13] Imagine it now.
[05:15] It’s a beautiful day with bright sun and a gentle breeze.
[05:19] The birds in the trees are singing John Lennon’s Imagine.
[05:23] When all of a sudden, BAM!
[05:26] In a bakery display case, there sits the most delectable strawberry cheesecake you have ever seen.
[05:33] A radiant red glaze glistens over its smooth, creamy surface.
[05:39] A few carefully placed strawberry slices bring to mind the taste of childhood summers.
[05:46] Before you can say,
[05:47] Oh wait, I’m on a diet.
[05:49] Your feet are moving towards the door.
[05:52] Your hand is pulling the handle and bells chime your tongue-hanging, mouth-drooling arrival.
[05:59] What’s going on in the brain and body now?
[06:02] A few things.
[06:03] First, your brain is temporarily taken over by the promise of reward.
[06:09] At the sight of that strawberry cheesecake,
[06:12] your brain launches a neurotransmitter called dopamine from the middle of your brain
[06:16] into areas of the brain that control your attention, motivation and action.
[06:24] Those little dopamine messengers tell the brain,
[06:28] Must get cheesecake now, or suffer a fate worse than death.
[06:35] This might explain the near-automatic movement of your feet and hands into the bakery.
[06:41] Whose hand is that?
[06:43] Is that my hand on the door?
[06:44] Yes, it is.
[06:45] Now, how much is that cheesecake?
[06:49] While all of this is happening, your blood sugar drops.
[06:53] As soon as your brain anticipates your mouth’s first creamy bite,
[06:57] it releases a neurochemical that tells the body to take up whatever energy is circulating in the bloodstream.
[07:05] The body’s logic is this.
[07:07] A slice of cheesecake, high in sugar and fat, is going to produce a major spike in blood sugar.
[07:15] To prevent an unsightly sugar coma and the rare, but never pretty, death by cheesecake,
[07:21] you need to lower the sugar currently in the bloodstream.
[07:24] How kind of the body to look out for you in this way.
[07:29] But this drop in blood sugar can leave you feeling a little shaky and cranky,
[07:34] making you crave the cheesecake even more.
[07:38] Hmm, sneaky.
[07:41] I don’t want to sound like a cheesecake conspiracy theorist,
[07:43] but if it’s a contest between the cheesecake and your good intention to diet,
[07:49] I’d say the cheesecake is winning.
[07:52] But wait, just as in the Serengeti, you have a secret weapon.
[07:57] Willpower.
[07:59] You remember willpower, the ability to do what really matters, even when it’s difficult.
[08:05] Right now, what really matters isn’t the momentary pleasure of cheesecake molecules hitting your palate.
[08:11] Part of you knows that you have bigger goals, goals like health, happiness and fitting into your pants tomorrow.
[08:19] This part of you recognizes that the cheesecake threatens your long-term goals,
[08:24] and so it will do whatever it can to deal with this threat.
[08:28] This is your willpower instinct.
[08:34] But unlike the saber-toothed tiger, the cheesecake is not the real threat.
[08:39] Think about it.
[08:40] That cheesecake cannot do anything to you, your health or your waistline,
[08:45] unless you pick up the fork.
[08:46] That’s right, this time the enemy is within.
[08:51] You don’t need to flee the bakery, although it might not hurt,
[08:55] and you definitely don’t need to kill the cheesecake or the baker,
[09:00] but you do need to do something about those inner cravings.
[09:03] You can’t exactly kill a desire, and because the cravings are inside your mind and body,
[09:09] there’s no obvious escape.
[09:11] The fight-or-flight stress response, which pushes you towards your most primitive urges,
[09:16] is exactly what you don’t need right now.
[09:20] Self-control requires a different approach to self-preservation,
[09:25] one that helps you handle this new kind of threat.
[09:29] What is the threat?
[09:32] We’re used to seeing temptation and trouble outside of ourselves,
[09:36] the dangerous doughnut, the sinful cigarette, the enticing internet.
[09:41] But self-control points the mirror back at ourselves
[09:45] and our inner world of thoughts, desires, emotions and impulses.
[09:51] For your willpower challenge, identify the inner impulse that needs to be restrained.
[09:59] What is the thought or feeling that makes you want to do whatever it is you don’t want to do?
[10:06] If you aren’t sure, try some field observation.
[10:09] Next time you’re tempted, turn your attention inward.
[10:17] Let that sink in.
[10:19] Willpower.
[10:22] Field observation.
[10:26] Curiosity.
[10:32] Self-preservation.
[10:34] Self-forgiveness.
[10:35] Long-term goals.
[10:38] And pause.
[10:40] Next time you’re tempted, turn your attention inward.
[10:45] Get curious.
[10:47] What’s going on in there?
[10:52] Turn your attention inward. Is that not what it’s all about?
[10:56] It’s self-awareness.
[10:57] It’s being mindful. It’s noticing. It’s curiosity.
[11:02] That’s how we learn.
[11:04] That’s about instinct.
[11:05] That’s your inner knowing.
[11:07] This is the growth edge.
[11:10] Right there.
[11:13] Let’s take this into practice now, together.
[11:16] Wherever you are, if it’s safe to do so, you can gently close your eyes, soften your gaze.
[11:21] I want you to take your feet and press them down into the ground or the surface that you’re on.
[11:29] If you’re driving, do this carefully.
[11:33] Put some pressure on the balls of your feet, onto your toes, the heels.
[11:37] You could do the same with your hands.
[11:39] Almost like a rocking motion.
[11:42] Exploring the pressure, exploring the feeling.
[11:47] We’re coming into our bodies. We’re grounding.
[11:52] We’re going to create a pause. A pause for self-awareness.
[11:57] A pause for curiosity.
[12:00] A pause with purpose.
[12:05] Still moving those feet, still pressing in.
[12:08] We’re going to take a breath in and release.
[12:14] Allowing your shoulders to rise.
[12:17] Perhaps even allowing your hands to rise.
[12:20] Breathing in.
[12:23] Stretching and releasing as you exhale.
[12:29] Perhaps repeating, but this time allowing yourself with a sigh to release.
[12:47] Letting go of anything you’re holding.
[12:54] Releasing any thoughts, tensions, to-dos.
[12:59] This is your moment.
[13:02] Pressing your feet down.
[13:06] Or pressing your hands down.
[13:08] Perhaps doing both in unison or one at a time.
[13:14] Feeling into your body.
[13:20] Allowing the pressure to connect you more deeply with those parts of your body.
[13:30] Allowing your lungs to expand as much as they want to.
[13:37] Your exhale to be as long as feels comfortable.
[13:45] Perhaps allowing parts of your body to stretch and rise as you inhale.
[13:53] And if it feels like a fit, perhaps adding some pressure downwards on the exhale.
[13:59] Into your feet, into your hands.
[14:03] Allowing any limbs you’ve risen up to float down.
[14:11] Allowing yourself to pause in the midst of being.
[14:21] In this moment there is nothing you need to do.
[14:28] If you’re mid-task listening to that pressure, take that moment.
[14:36] A microsecond pause.
[14:42] Allowing your body to rise, expand, release and rest.
[15:06] That’s it.
[15:10] You’re doing it.
[15:17] Now let something that you want to do or you want to stop come into your mind.
[15:28] Could be something big, could be something small.
[15:42] I’d like you to take a little bit deeper.
[15:47] Take some curiosity to this thing.
[15:55] I want to do this or I don’t want to do this.
[15:59] I will do this or I won’t do this.
[16:07] Just explore the thoughts you have without getting attached and carried away with them.
[16:14] Pressing down into your feet or onto your hands.
[16:18] If you need to ground yourself and come back to the present moment.
[16:25] And we’re going to go underneath that want or that won’t or that will and ask why.
[16:36] Why is this something I want or don’t want? I will do or won’t do?
[16:44] Pressing down onto your feet, onto your hands.
[16:50] Grounding ourselves, observing the thoughts, not chasing the thoughts.
[16:56] Seeing what arises. We’re not forcing an answer.
[17:01] We’re letting something rise slowly to the surface when we drop in.
[17:05] Why?
[17:06] Why?
[17:09] Why do I want this? Why don’t I want this?
[17:15] Why do I do this? Why don’t I do this?
[17:22] Pressing your feet, rocking from heel to toe.
[17:31] Taking your breath in and letting yourself settle while you observe these thoughts.
[17:46] You may have emotions arise. You may have a thought or a word for a feeling.
[17:51] You may have absolutely nothing pop into your head or your body.
[17:56] And that is absolutely perfect as well.
[18:09] And now with that curiosity we’re going to blend compassion.
[18:13] Placing a hand on our heart or perhaps resting and cradling our cheek into the palm of our hand.
[18:21] Something that feels soothing. It could be a stroke, it could be a press, it could be a squeeze.
[18:30] Yeah, we’re noticing.
[18:32] And into that space, that kind touch, acknowledge yourself. I see you.
[18:53] I know you have desires and purposes and instincts and intuitiveness and knowing.
[19:10] I know what I need.
[19:17] There’s purpose here at play.
[19:25] This is the pause right here to listen to that canning that’s inside your body.
[19:44] Give yourself some grace and encouragement. You’re doing it.
[19:50] Right now you are here learning, growing, trying.
[20:05] You could say some kind words to yourself if it feels like a fit.
[20:11] You’re doing great.
[20:15] I’m so proud of you. Or perhaps simply I acknowledge you for wanting change.
[20:27] That may be enough.
[20:32] That in itself is huge.
[20:42] Allowing all those thoughts and words to settle into your heart space.
[20:51] Pressing down again on the soles of your feet, the palms of your hand.
[20:56] Adding some pressure.
[21:01] There’s a firmness in you. There’s a presence in you. There’s a purpose in you.
[21:09] Your instincts are strong when you stop and pause and listen.
[21:22] Allowing yourself another breath in to that strength and a release out.
[21:32] Bringing your attention back to the room that you’re in.
[21:35] Perhaps touching something or focusing your gaze on something to make yourself land.
[21:46] There we go.
[21:50] Pause in the willpower instinct. It’s not just a self-help cliche.
[21:54] It’s a magic doorway. It’s a moment of mindfulness and that’s where the paths diverge.
[21:59] From the habits that we’ve been stacking up into the way that we choose to move forward.
[22:05] So the next time you’re drawn towards something you think you will do, you think you won’t do, or you just damn well want.
[22:13] Whether it’s sugar, whether it’s screams or something else.
[22:17] See if you can meet that urge with curiosity and kindness, mindfulness, awareness and intention, not condemnation.
[22:27] I know you can do that.
[22:30] I know it’s a practice.
[22:32] It’s always a practice.
[22:35] We fall once, we stand back up again.
[22:39] With kindness.
[22:43] And here’s your affirmation to rise with me this week.
[22:49] I have the ability to choose.
[22:52] I choose with compassion.
[22:56] I choose with intention.
[23:00] I have the ability to choose.
[23:03] I choose with compassion.
[23:07] I choose with intention.
[23:13] I have the ability to choose.
[23:17] I choose with compassion.
[23:19] I choose with intention.
[23:24] Write it down, chant it, march to it.
[23:28] Let it become a thread of strength and purpose in your day.
[23:33] And know that when you say this, land it with strength.
[23:39] I have the ability.
[23:41] I choose.
[23:44] If you start off and the I sound soft, I have the ability to choose.
[23:49] Plant those feet, press down into the different parts of your foot.
[23:55] Move, press, strengthen.
[23:59] Use strength in your voice.
[24:03] Strength in your body.
[24:05] I have the ability to choose.
[24:08] I choose with compassion.
[24:11] I choose with intention.
[24:13] Really ground that.
[24:15] That’s the strength and the pause.
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[25:00] So go well, folks.
[25:01] And remember, there is magic, medicine and power in the words that we weave and wield.
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